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Gimme Money Plzkthx · Dec 30, 2006, 03:45 AM // 03:45

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Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

where can you find same skills being used by the same class, 6vs6 or 8vs8? now that you've answered that, please read carefully the Combination With Repetition and Combination Without Repetition?

and after reading that, also read this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom_of_choice

I (think?) understand what you are saying, and touche. However, mathematically, 8v8 still has more options. Just because some people don't want to use them doesn't mean they're not there. So, what it comes down to is what people want (as they are ultimately the ones running the repetitive/fotm builds or playing against them) and what they want is 8v8.

defrule · Dec 30, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51

People associate spike with a team build all the time but is that necessarily correct? When you saw 4 rangers a necro and the 2 monk backline then most likely it will be ranger spike, but is that particular setup actually a spike? To me spike is merely a style of play and so I can run the above build, not spike at all and have my team attack at will, but it wouldn't be spiking then would it? The build is simple optimized for spiking or in other words optimized for a particular style of play.

So when people say they hate spike, they think of the builds ranger spike, blood spike, obsidian spike and so on, but what they really should be hating is the oppositions style of play.

Can you truely get rid of this style of play called spiking? Does 6v6 truely rid HA of spiking?

Bacon Goes Monk · Dec 30, 2006, 05:22 AM // 05:22

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Originally Posted by defrule

Can you truely get rid of this style of play called spiking? Does 6v6 truely rid HA of spiking?

Nope.

Adren spikes + pressure > spikes alone.

auch · Dec 30, 2006, 09:09 AM // 09:09

people that dont heroes ascent are probally voting randomly also 8v8 is much more fun still

Skuld · Dec 30, 2006, 10:48 AM // 10:48

Or vica versa, but what ya gonna do?

leeky baby · Dec 30, 2006, 12:57 PM // 12:57

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Originally Posted by Bacon Goes Monk

They won't change it back to 8v8. No matter how much people want 8v8 back, they won't change it. Ask some alphas, they'll tell you.

Where did you get this info from? any links, so we can all see?

kwakkwak · Dec 30, 2006, 01:31 PM // 13:31

Ok, so you guys like more IWAY, b-spike, etc.. then the builds right now. Ok that's fine for me, but pls respect my opinion ty

JR · Dec 30, 2006, 02:00 PM // 14:00

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Originally Posted by leeky baby

Where did you get this info from? any links, so we can all see?

Like I said... It's rubbish.

jana_the_stranger · Dec 30, 2006, 03:17 PM // 15:17

8vs8 FTW

6vs6 is so boring

jana_the_stranger · Dec 30, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

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Originally Posted by kwakkwak

Ok, so you guys like more IWAY, b-spike, etc.. then the builds right now. Ok that's fine for me, but pls respect my opinion ty

well iway or fear me way whats the different? or even worse: japway and taiway O.o or paraway
b-spike or ele-spike whats the different?

they just have to nerf the soul-reaping of spirits, spirits have NO soul !!!

leeky baby · Dec 30, 2006, 04:46 PM // 16:46

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Originally Posted by JR-

Like I said... It's rubbish.

gd

dont post false information you will worry some of us ^^

Bacon Goes Monk · Dec 30, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17

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Originally Posted by JR-

Like I said... It's rubbish.

I'll ask some euro alphas later then. Maybe the two americans I talked to were just f***ing around.

I still don't think they'll change it back.

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Originally Posted by jana_the_stranger

they just have to nerf the soul-reaping of spirits, spirits have NO soul !!!

They already did.

JR · Dec 30, 2006, 05:30 PM // 17:30

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Originally Posted by Bacon Goes Monk

I'll ask some euro alphas later then.

You are talking to one.

God Apprentice · Dec 30, 2006, 06:16 PM // 18:16

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Originally Posted by kwakkwak

I'll tell you some new builds that will be played: Bloodspike, Rangerspike, Obspike, Smiteball (omfg), IWAY, FOC-spike

if that isn't gimmick i don't know.

You starting playing HA on the double fame weekend, didn't you?

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Originally Posted by kwakkwak

Ok, so you guys like more IWAY, b-spike, etc.. then the builds right now. Ok that's fine for me, but pls respect my opinion ty

I once stated I was tired of seeing this same argument. Even if tommorow the format changed back to 8, balanced builds could finally return, since there is no real balance in 6. Spike and IWAY isn't that hard to beat by the way....

jana_the_stranger · Dec 30, 2006, 08:57 PM // 20:57

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Originally Posted by Bacon Goes Monk

They already did.

they reduced it to half of the energy so its still wrong

tacitus · Dec 31, 2006, 03:14 AM // 03:14

8v8 ahead on 75% if this was an election and ignored there would be blood on the streets followed by a coup d’état or mass oppression depending on how extreme the existing government is.

I would just hope not ignored would be enough

Gimme Money Plzkthx · Dec 31, 2006, 04:19 AM // 04:19

We seriously need Gaile to stop by again and give us an update. We don't even know if anet is willing to reimplement 8v8.

Also, on the subject of 8v8 gimmicks. First, I'm not going to bother restating things like 6v6 has gimmicks (oops, I just did) because people have already explained that 50000 times. The thing is, with nightfall, there are going to be more counters (and yea, more fotms). This will shake up HA if there is a player number change for at least 2-7 days (like it did for 6v6) before people get things straightened out. Also, I don't know why everyone is worried about bloodspike. While it was easily beatable with a decent balanced team before, it is now going to be easily wtf5minutepwnable by any team with an avatar of grenth dervish.